Path two

Downwind waves.

When wind blows against the tide, the Hudson stands up into short, steep waves you can run downwind. Here is how it works, what to know about the river at Hoboken, and a tool to explore wind and tide.

A word of cautionDownwind runs happen in wind, current and boat traffic.

Learn the river first, always paddle with others and with someone experienced, and stay clear of ferries and commercial traffic. This page is educational, and the tool below is not a forecast or a safety clearance. Check the official NOAA marine forecast.

The science

Wind, fetch and tide.

27°

Wind from about 27 degrees, north-northeast, lines up with the long open reach of river to our north. The longer wind blows over open water, called fetch, the bigger the waves get.

The tide then adds or takes away steepness. When wind and current oppose each other, waves get shorter and steeper than the same wind over still water.

The two angles we watch

27°
From the north, flood tide
Wind from
about 25 to 30 deg (NNE)
Tide
Flood, flowing north-northeast
Fetch
about 18 to 21 km at 26 to 28 deg
190°
From the south, ebb tide
Wind from
about 188 to 194 deg (S)
Tide
Ebb, flowing south-southwest
Fetch
15 to 16 km, up to 30 km at 188 to 189 deg

Figures come from a model for a spot mid-river off Hoboken Cove, built from NOAA shoreline data. The windows are only a few degrees wide, the model has not yet been checked against logged sessions, and forecast wind direction is rarely this precise. They show where the most wave energy builds and say nothing certain about any given day.

Know Hoboken

The Hudson is a tidal estuary.

Salt water from the ocean pushes in and out, so the current reverses roughly every six hours. At Hoboken the flood runs upriver toward the north-northeast and the ebb runs back toward the south-southwest.

Flood

Water moves upriver. Wind from the north-northeast opposes it and waves stack up.

Ebb

Water moves downriver. Wind from the south opposes it and waves stack up.

A current of a knot or two is enough to carry a beginner away from where they meant to be, and it changes without warning. Learn the tide for the day before you think about going out.

A word of cautionBefore you ever paddle here.
  • Learn the tide and current for the day, and what they do to the wind.
  • Always paddle with others, and with someone experienced.
  • Wear a life jacket, dress for the water temperature, and carry a way to call for help.
  • Check the official NOAA marine forecast. This site is not a safety clearance.
  • Stay clear of ferries, terminals, piers and commercial traffic.
Try it

Wind and tide checker.

Set a wind direction and a tide. The tool shows how they line up and how much open water the wind has to work with at a spot mid-river off Hoboken Cove. It does not predict wave height.

Wind and tide--
Open water--
Compass--

Fetch comes from the same table the forecast uses for a mid-river spot. Other breaks will differ. Educational only.

To watch the same model run through the next 72 hours of forecast wind and NOAA current, with modelled wave height, weather and tide, open Hudson Wind, Current & Waves. It has the same limits as this page, so check the official NOAA marine forecast as well.